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A Perfect Blunder

Isn't it amazing that the Judeo-Christian God was refuted by his own book?
God is everywhere. Psalms 139:7 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?
The Holy Bible has many books that say otherwise.
Gen: 4:16, Gen.11:5, Numbers 23:15, 1Kings 19:11-12, Job 1:12, Job2:7, Jonah 1:3, Genesis 17:22, 18:33, Exodus 11:4, 20:24, 25:8, Deut.33:2, Psalm 9:11, 10:1, 14:2, Jer. 23:39, Hosea 11:9, Joel 3:17 and Hab.3:32.2.)
God is perfect and all his works are perfect.
According to the Bible, God is perfect and all his creation is perfect.

He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. - Deuteronomy 32:4

Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. - Matthew 5:4-8

As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. He is a shield for all who take refuge in him. - Psalm 18:30

Now, If all his creation is perfect, which includes man (Genesis1:26). How did man erred?
If all his creation is perfect which includes heaven (Psalm 102:25) and He ruled heaven (Heb.8:1, Psalm 103:19, and Psalm 2:4) Lucifer and the angels (Job 38:4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me,if you understand. 5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!Who stretched a measuring line across it? 6 On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone- 7 while the morning stars sang together and all the angels [1] shouted for joy? 11 The word of the LORD came to me: 12 "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. [Remember this statement! It says that Lucifer was a model of perfection both on beauty and wisdom - John the Atheist] 13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire,[1] turquoise and beryl. [What's with precious stones? Why does a "Supreme Being" give a damn about precious stones? In nature, these rock doesn't mean a thing! It is only people that give values to these stones. - John the Atheist] [2] Your settings and mountings [3] were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared. 14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. [ now, here's an enigma...If Lucifer is perfect and heaven is a perfect place created by a perfect god, how did wickedness find him? And what more important is, if all of God's creation is perfect, where did wickedness came from?- John the Atheist]
Now with all that perfection, how come there was a rebelion in heaven if God's way is perfect? Since God rule heaven and there is a rebellion, then that means God's rule is still not perfect? Also how did wickedness (Isaiah 14:12) entered Lucifer's mind? Remember that God created Lucifer and all of God's creation is perfect.
Even if one argues "freewill", a perfect creation will still pick the "perfect" choice. Why did Lucifer rebelled? How did wickedness entered a mind that was created by a perfect God?. And why did Lucifer become discontented if he's living in a perfect heaven, ruled by a perfect God?
God repents:
Exodus 24:14 “I, Jehovah, have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it: I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent…”
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Genesis 6:6 God repents of having made man
Exodus 32:9-14 “And Jehovah said unto Moses, ‘I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people: now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.’ And Moses besought Jehovah his God, and said, Jehovah, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, that thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, saying, ‘For evil did he bring them forth, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth’? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people. Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom you swore by your own self, and said unto them, ‘I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.’ And Jehovah repented of the evil which He said He would do unto His people.” Deut. 32:36 “For Jehovah will judge His people, And repent Himself for his servants [when they rebel against Him]” Judges 2:18 “And when Jehovah raised them up judges, then Jehovah was with the judge, and saved them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented Jehovah because of their groaning by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.” I Samuel 15:11 God repents for having raised Saul to the kingdom.
God knows all (Omniscient)
Psalm 1391 O LORD , you have searched meand you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;you perceive my thoughts from afar.
3 You discern my going out and my lying down;you are familiar with all my ways.
4 Before a word is on my tongue you know it completely, O LORD .
Now the Bible gave us some instances that God didn't know all.
(Gen.3:9, Gen 4:6, Gen.4:9, Gen.18:20-21, Deut. 8:2, Deut.13:3, Psalm14:2, Ezek. 20:3, Gen. 22:12, Num 22:9, 2Chron.32:31, Hosea 8:8:4,Amos 9:3 and Jer. 32:353.)
Gen. 18:17 the Lord says, "Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do?"
God is the God of love and peace
He is all-good and righteous God is love (1John 4:8-16), Psalm 145:9 The LORD is good to all; he has compassion on all he has made.He is compationate and merciful. 1 Chronicles 16:34 Give thanks to the LORD , for he is good; his love endures forever. Psalm 258 Good and upright is the LORD ;therefore he instructs sinners in his ways. Psalm 145:8 The LORD is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in love.
9 The LORD is good to all; he has compassion on all he has made.
Now compare to the following:
Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
Jeremiah 13:14 I will smash them one against the other, fathers and sons alike,declares the LORD . I will allow no pity or mercy or compassion to keep me from destroying them."
1 Samuel 6:19 But God struck down some of the men of Beth Shemesh, putting seventy [1] of them to death because they had looked into the ark ofthe LORD . The people mourned because of the heavy blow the LORD had dealt them, Numbers 25:4 The LORD said to Moses, "Take all the leaders of these people, kil lthem and expose them in broad daylight before the LORD , so that the LORD's fierce anger may turn away from Israel." Compare to the following chapters and verses: Evil comes from the Lord - 1Sam.16:23, 1Sam 18:10, 1Sam.19:9, Micah1:12, Judge 9:23, 1Kings 14:10, 2Kings 21:12, Ezek. 20:25-26
The Purity of the Camp (Is this an example of a good and just God?)
1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 "Command the Israelites to send away fromthe camp anyone who has an infectious skin disease [1] or a dischargeof any kind, or who is ceremonially unclean because of a dead body. 3Send away male and female alike; send them outside the camp so they will not defile their camp, where I dwell among them." 4 TheIsraelites did this; they sent them outside the camp. They did just as the LORD had instructed Moses. (Numbers 5:1-4) [ Instead of curing them, he told Moses to put those people withdiseases outside the camp? I thought he's all powerful too, Is curing those people hard to do?- John the Atheist]
Kill 24,000 people because of one man? That's OVERKILL!!!!
Numbers 25:6-9
Also,Cases of religious intollerance: Exodus 32:27-29, Deut. 13:6-10
Bigotry on female: Deut. 22:13-21 (Notice that such law is not applied to men!)
and last but not the least!
Jesus curse a fig tree just because the tree has no fruit. (Matt. 21:19-20 and Mark 11:14-21) Is that what Christian want me to worship? If he's a god as they claim, can't he understand the reason why the fig tree has no fruit? Is that a good role-model for compassion?
God never lies
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie,nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
Titus 12a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time, Yeah???? Really???
Joshua 7:1 says, "The people of Israel broke faith in regard to the devoted things; for Achan...took some of the devoted things; and the anger of the Lord burned against the people of Israel" and God responds by saying in the 11th verse, "Israel has sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant...."
Yet, God did not tell the truth. Only Achan sinned, not all Israel, and Achan admits as much in the 20th verse by saying, "Indeed I have sinned against the Lord God of Israel...." "He shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever" (2 Sam. 7:13) and to David God says, "thine house and thy kingdom shall be established forever: thy throne shall be established for ever" (2 Sam. 7:16).
God's prophecy failed. He didn't tell the truth.
The Davidic line ended with Zedekiah and there was no Davidic king for 450 years when the Maccabeans established a dynasty, the first king being Aristobulus. Since the end of the Maccabean dynasty there has never been a king of the Jews.
Second Kings 24:14 proves as much by saying, "He carried away all Jerusalem, and all the princes, and all the mighty men of valour, even ten thousand captives, and all the craftsmen and smiths. None remained, save the poorest sort of the people of the land." "If you shall say in your heart, `These nations are greater than I; how can I dispossess them?'--you shall not be afraid of them, but you shall remember well what Yahweh your God did to Pharaoh and to all Egypt: the great trials which your eyes saw, the signs and the wonders, the mighty hand and the outstretched arm, by which Yahweh your God brought you out. So shall Yahweh your God do to all the peoples of whom you are afraid. Moreover Yahweh your God will send the hornet among them until those who are left, who hide themselves from you, are destroyed. You shall not be terrified of them; for Yahweh your God, the great and awesome God, is among you. And Yahweh your God will drive out those nations before you little by little; you will be unable to destroy them at once, lest the beasts of the field become too numerous for you. But Yahweh your God will deliver them over to you, and will inflict defeat upon them until they are destroyed. And he will deliver their kings into your hand, and you will destroy their name from under heaven: no one shall be able to stand against you, until you have destroyed them." - Deuteronomy 7:17-24
So Yahweh gave to Israel ALL the land of which he had sworn to give to their fathers; and they took possession of it and dwelt in it. Yahweh gave them rest all around, according to all that He had sworn to their fathers. and not a man of ALL their enemies stood against them; - (Josh. 21:43-45).
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Now Joshua was old, advanced in years, and Yahweh said to him: "You are old, advanced in years, and there remains very much land yet to be possessed. This is the land that yet remains: all the territory of the Philistines and all that of the Geshurites, from the Shihor, which is east of Egypt, as far as the border of Ekron northward (which is counted as Canaanite); the five lords of the Philistines--the Gazites, the Ashdodites, the Ashkelonites, the Gittites, and the Ekronites; also the Avites from the south, all the land of the Canaanites, and Mearah that belongs to the Sidonians as far as Aphek, to the border of the Amorites; the land of the Gebalites, and all Lebanon, toward the sunrise, from Baal Gad below Mount Hermon as far as the entrance of Hamath; all the inhabitants of the mountains from Lebanon as far as the Brook Misrephoth, and all the Sidonians--them will I drive out from before the children of Israel: only divide it by lot to Israel as an inheritance, as I have commanded you." (Joshua 13:1-6).
Was Tyre been destroyed as God said?
Therefore thus says Yahweh God: "Behold, I am against you, O Tyre, and will cause many nations to come up against you, as the sea causes its waves to come up. And they shall destroy the walls of Tyre and break down her towers; I will also scrape her dust from her, and make her like the top of a rock. It shall be a place for spreading nets in the midst of the sea, for I have spoken," says Yahweh God; "it shall become plunder for the nations. Also her daughter villages which are in the fields shall be slain by the sword. Then they shall know that I am Yahweh."
For thus says Yahweh God: "Behold, I will bring against Tyre from the north Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses, with chariots, and with horsemen, and an army with many people. He will slay with the sword your daughter villages in the fields; he will heap up a siege mound against you, build a wall against you, and raise a defense against you. He will direct his battering rams against your walls, and with his axes he will break down your towers. Because of the abundance of his horses, their dust will cover you; your walls will shake at the noise of the horsemen, the wagons, and the chariots, when he enters your gates, as men enter a city that has been breached. With the hooves of his horses he will trample all your streets; he will slay your people by the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. They will plunder your riches and pillage your merchandise; they will break down your walls and destroy your pleasant houses; they will lay your stones, your timber, and your soil in the midst of the water. I will put an end to the sound of your songs, and the sound of your harps shall be heard no more. I will make you like the top of a rock; you shall be a place for spreading nets, you shall never be rebuilt, for I Yahweh have spoken," says Yahweh God (26:3-14).
Ezekiel's tirade against Tyre continued through three chapters.
His prediction was that the city's destruction would be complete and permanent: "The merchants among the peoples will hiss at you; you will become a horror, and be no more forever" (27:36).
So sure was he of Tyre's eternal destruction that he repeated it: "All who knew you among the peoples are astonished at you: you have become a horror, and shall be no more forever" (Ezekiel 28:19).
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21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession." (Matt. 15:21)
3After sighting Cyprus and passing to the south of it, we sailed on to Syria. We landed at Tyre, where our ship was to unload its cargo.
(Acts 21:3).
Did Zedekiah to die in peace?
In predicting Jerusalem's fall to Babylon, Jeremiah prophesied that Zedekiah, the king of Judah, would "die in peace": "Thus says Yahweh, the God of Israel: `Go and speak to Zedekiah king of Judah and tell him, "Thus says Yahweh, `Behold, I will give this city into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall burn it with fire. And you shall not escape from his hand, but shall surely be taken and delivered into his hand; your eyes shall see the eyes of the king of Babylon, he shall speak with you face to face, and you shall go to Babylon.'"' Yet hear the word of Yahweh, O Zedekiah king of Judah! Thus says Yahweh concerning you: `You shall not die by the sword. You shall die in peace; as in the ceremonies of your fathers, the former kings who were before you, so they shall burn incense for you and lament for you, saying, "Alas, lord!" For I have pronounced the word, says Yahweh'" (Jer. 34:2-5).
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But the army of the Chaldeans pursued the king, and they overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. All his army was scattered from him. So they (the Chaldeans) took the king (Zedekiah) and brought him up to the king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, and he pronounced judgment on him. Then the king of Babylon killed the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes. And he killed all the princes of Judah in Riblah. He also put out the eyes of Zedekiah; and the king of Babylon bound him in bronze fetters, took him to Babylon, and put him in prison till the day of his death (Jer. 52:9-11).

How's that for a bible study?


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